9/3/2006 2:52 PM
Doug Tilley wrote:
I have many stones such as these. I pick up anything that is on the surface and take it with me, then I record all of it and place them together in a container, its alot of work but I have all ways felt that it was necessary. The Archeologist in this area are not very helpful, as they don't want anyone picking up artifacts and they do not trust your records. I think that we amateurs have a place in this field. Then there is the Fed/state laws that we all must obey. all of my finds with the exception of ten pieces are from SC. I live about 30 miles from the Topper Site in Allendale Co. SC. DR. Goodyear has stired up a storm with his discovery at the Topper Site, by proving that humans lived there some where around 50,000 years ago, he has been accused of salting the site,by some old timers that have written papers on the oldest humans and how they got here to North America, shame, shame. Dr. Goodyear is a very honest and dedicated archeologist, his find was simple, he dug deeper than any one had before. I like your site and would like to see more. D.T. Reply to this
12/29/2006 10:22 PM
Stone wrote:
While i admire and rsepct your dedication to discovery and scientific investigation, I am once again compelled to comment:
The tools first pictured on your site are obvious in their intended use, generally speaking, because of clearly defined working surfaces. Your next pics show imaginary hand-holds but no working surfaces. Primary and foremost in aboriginal minds was the production of workable tool surfaces--not hand-holds on rocks. Hand-holds were not manufactured, working surfaces were. Examples of specifically worked and deliberate contoured to-fit-the-hand hand-holds exist in the double pitted hammerstones--one of which you depict in the first photograph--and little if anything else. Hand-holds were never produced in casual tool forms (convenient hammerstones, utilized flakes, crudely made choppers, etc) and are imaginary--not a good expenditure of an Indian's time and effort for the casual, perhaps even one-time use of a stone as a tool...
Sex Stones are what you've been collecting--in laymans' terms they are just f**king rocks, at best one-time tools and most likely just debris or even natural rock scatter often found on sites containing real tools... I wish you would write back--a good debate is welcomed here, but i must be fair and warn you--after more than 20 years study of stone tool technologies, I am currently at best skeptical of your thesis.
4/7/2008 1:18 PM
Scott Hall wrote:
My story is very similar to yours except I was interested in rocks in general and came across five rocks standing on their end half buried in the river bank. Thinking that was odd I put them in my bag and carries them home. After washing I noticed that the rocks had "finger / thumb grips etc" but could find no information on these type of crude stone tools. Your article is a blessing and was extremely informative. The past two months I have been constantly in search of just these type of rocks and my collection has grown large. I have come across what I believe to be a temporary camp of sorts with a treasure trove of what I believe to be crude stone tools / pestles / mortars / grinders / scrapers / etc. Problem is that these items are not your typical artifact made of flint etc with beautiful flaking, these are rocks that definitely look to be modified / chipped away / smoothed / and cut by man. I would like to send you some pphots and see what you think. I noticed you had written this article in 2006, are you still collecting? Do you have any additional information or updates. Again, I am so pleased to have stumbled across your site. Thanks. Scott Hall Reply to this
4/2/2009 1:21 AMClaude Hardin wrote:
The big one with depressions is a nut cracking stone and worth some money. The others are more than likely universal pestles and the stones to crack the nut with which really add value. This is very nice, you shouldn't have problems finding information on these. Reply to this
3/22/2010 10:59 AM
David L.Wilt wrote:
workingthis same site for eight yrs,thousands of artifacts found,hundreds of pottery sherds,maybe thousands.Approx-7k feet in length x-1k acres within walking distance from my residence.Paleo,archaic,woodland occupation.Stone is 99p quartzite,quartz,vein quartz,milky,crystal,the rest probably imported,traded,green flint,jasper ryolite.Lithics at every level,pottery for every purpose,beautiful esthetics,Found beautiful classic dalton,May 4th04 laying right in front me ,light purple, blue,quartzite,1"tran-paleo-g10.i don't dig either,everything i find is waiting for me,when it rains,it pours!!!! Sincerely,David L.Wilt Reply to this
7/3/2010 1:48 PM
amy sullivan wrote:
Please,can you tell what me what kind of tools these are. I have a truck bed full of all of the above and much much more.I have effigies coming out of my ears. Human heads,snake heads,eagles,hawks,skulls,ect... I would love to have proof for those who are still blind unbelievers.That only see the obvious as in your article. I would also like to find someone that would be interested in buying some of my tools and effigies. Even though they are considered to be crude field grade,I have some very awesome pieces in very very good shape. Reply to this
8/8/2010 3:54 PM
Melanie budiarto wrote:
I also collect these and more artifacts. You can just seem to "feel" their purpose sometimes. But I believe the one with the center hole, might have been used as a fire starter, Placing one end of a stick on wood, wrapping a string attached to another stick around it, you would place this rock on top to hold the stick in place while with a sawing motion, rub the stick back and forth causing enough friction to ignite the wood. Reply to this
I have many stones such as these. I pick up anything that is on the surface and take it with me, then I record all of it and place them together in a container, its alot of work but I have all ways felt that it was necessary. The Archeologist in this area are not very helpful, as they don't want anyone picking up artifacts and they do not trust your records. I think that we amateurs have a place in this field. Then there is the Fed/state laws that we all must obey. all of my finds with the exception of ten pieces are from SC. I live about 30 miles from the Topper Site in Allendale Co. SC. DR. Goodyear has stired up a storm with his discovery at the Topper Site, by proving that humans lived there some where around 50,000 years ago, he has been accused of salting the site,by some old timers that have written papers on the oldest humans and how they got here to North America, shame, shame. Dr. Goodyear is a very honest and dedicated archeologist, his find was simple, he dug deeper than any one had before. I like your site and would like to see more. D.T.
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While i admire and rsepct your dedication to discovery and scientific investigation, I am once again compelled to comment:
The tools first pictured on your site are obvious in their intended use, generally speaking, because of clearly defined working surfaces. Your next pics show imaginary hand-holds but no working surfaces. Primary and foremost in aboriginal minds was the production of workable tool surfaces--not hand-holds on rocks. Hand-holds were not manufactured, working surfaces were. Examples of specifically worked and deliberate contoured to-fit-the-hand hand-holds exist in the double pitted hammerstones--one of which you depict in the first photograph--and little if anything else. Hand-holds were never produced in casual tool forms (convenient hammerstones, utilized flakes, crudely made choppers, etc) and are imaginary--not a good expenditure of an Indian's time and effort for the casual, perhaps even one-time use of a stone as a tool...
Sex Stones are what you've been collecting--in laymans' terms they are just f**king rocks, at best one-time tools and most likely just debris or even natural rock scatter often found on sites containing real tools... I wish you would write back--a good debate is welcomed here, but i must be fair and warn you--after more than 20 years study of stone tool technologies, I am currently at best skeptical of your thesis.
Best regards,
Stone
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My story is very similar to yours except I was interested in rocks in general and came across five rocks standing on their end half buried in the river bank. Thinking that was odd I put them in my bag and carries them home. After washing I noticed that the rocks had "finger / thumb grips etc" but could find no information on these type of crude stone tools. Your article is a blessing and was extremely informative. The past two months I have been constantly in search of just these type of rocks and my collection has grown large. I have come across what I believe to be a temporary camp of sorts with a treasure trove of what I believe to be crude stone tools / pestles / mortars / grinders / scrapers / etc. Problem is that these items are not your typical artifact made of flint etc with beautiful flaking, these are rocks that definitely look to be modified / chipped away / smoothed / and cut by man. I would like to send you some pphots and see what you think.
I noticed you had written this article in 2006, are you still collecting? Do you have any additional information or updates. Again, I am so pleased to have stumbled across your site. Thanks.
Scott Hall
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I have found many similar stone tools
in the central Ohio area.
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The big one with depressions is a nut cracking stone and worth some money. The others are more than likely universal pestles and the stones to crack the nut with which really add value. This is very nice, you shouldn't have problems finding information on these.
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workingthis same site for eight yrs,thousands of artifacts found,hundreds of pottery sherds,maybe thousands.Approx-7k feet in length x-1k acres within walking distance from my residence.Paleo,archaic,woodland occupation.Stone is 99p quartzite,quartz,vein quartz,milky,crystal,the rest probably imported,traded,green flint,jasper ryolite.Lithics at every level,pottery for every purpose,beautiful esthetics,Found beautiful classic dalton,May 4th04 laying right in front me ,light purple, blue,quartzite,1"tran-paleo-g10.i don't dig either,everything i find is waiting for me,when it rains,it pours!!!! Sincerely,David L.Wilt
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Please,can you tell what me what kind of tools these are. I have a truck bed
full of all of the above and much much more.I have effigies coming out of my ears. Human heads,snake heads,eagles,hawks,skulls,ect...
I would love to have proof for those who are still blind unbelievers.That only see the obvious as in your article.
I would also like to find someone that would be interested in buying some of my tools and effigies. Even though they are considered to be crude field grade,I have some very awesome pieces in very very good shape.
Reply to this
I also collect these and more artifacts. You can just seem to "feel" their purpose sometimes. But I believe the one with the center hole, might have been used as a fire starter, Placing one end of a stick on wood, wrapping a string attached to another stick around it, you would place this rock on top to hold the stick in place while with a sawing motion, rub the stick back and forth causing enough friction to ignite the wood.
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